Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 6th Nov 2006 18:27 UTC, submitted by Mystic TaCo
Microsoft Microsoft said Monday it has finalized the code for Office 2007, marking the completion of the first of two key projects for the software giant. Both Windows Vista and Office are slated for release to big businesses on Nov. 30. Microsoft has issued near-final test releases of Vista, but has not yet completed the final, or 'gold', code for the new operating system.
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"Gone Gold"
by DittoBox on Mon 6th Nov 2006 19:24 UTC
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2005-07-08

Just a slight correction to the end of the snippet: "Gone Gold," refers to the completion of the process of creating the "Gold Master," disc image for the DVDs or CDs being created at the factory, not the process of finalizing code. I suppose it works but it's just slightly inaccurate.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gone_gold

If you don't care, just ignore my little niggles ;)

RE: "Gone Gold"
by Kroc on Mon 6th Nov 2006 19:36 UTC in reply to ""Gone Gold""
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2005-11-10

Microsoft's Beta != Beta
Microsoft's RC != RC
Microsoft's Gold != Gold

Nothing out of the ordinary here.
I must add that Office 2007 is a fantastic innovative product from Microsoft. If they can deliver something new, why is it so hard with Windows. (What more, the MacBU are a handful of people and deliver Office:Mac with a fraction of the resources)

RE[2]: "Gone Gold"
by evangs on Mon 6th Nov 2006 19:41 UTC in reply to "RE: "Gone Gold""
evangs Member since:
2005-07-07

(What more, the MacBU are a handful of people and deliver Office:Mac with a fraction of the resources)

Perhaps it's because the bulk of the work is done by the Office division, and the Mac BU is there to port most of it to OS X, while adding some small changes to the UI here and there?

RE[3]: "Gone Gold"
by Ford Prefect on Mon 6th Nov 2006 19:52 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: "Gone Gold""
Ford Prefect Member since:
2006-01-16

Well, there are definitely more than some small changes.

For example, Internet Explorer for Mac was all-time more powerful than it's Windows counterpart. It did better rendering, it supported transparent PNG images, etc.

Also, the products are a lot more polished like their counterparts. I always found it funny how the guys and gals in the Mac BU could do it all right, what elsewhere at Microsoft everybody seemed to do wrong.

RE[4]: "Gone Gold"
by macisaac on Mon 6th Nov 2006 22:45 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: "Gone Gold""
macisaac Member since:
2005-08-28

it's odd and I realize this is subjective, so many folk keep saying how the mac office version is much better than the windows version, but I don't see that. I have both, and to me the mac version with all those floating windows and menu bars (not to mention the default zoom/page display being set to being way too small to be comfortable) just seems weird and less useable. can't get used to the thing. plus, I actually miss the cat office assistant. with the mac all you get is max, he's just not as cute ;-)

RE[3]: "Gone Gold"
by Volt on Tue 7th Nov 2006 01:59 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: "Gone Gold""
Volt Member since:
2006-06-23

I think they're on different code bases. At least I think I may have read that somewhere.

The point is that, if I recall correctly, the OS X version is not just a port with small changes to the UI.

RE: "Gone Gold"
by brewmastre on Mon 6th Nov 2006 21:03 UTC in reply to ""Gone Gold""
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2006-08-01

The sad part is, is that once MS piles on a bunch of Service packs/hotfixes/security patches it will no longer be of Gold quality.

RE[2]: "Gone Gold"
by DittoBox on Mon 6th Nov 2006 21:58 UTC in reply to "RE: "Gone Gold""
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2005-07-08

Yes because SP2 made Windows XP sooo much less secure...

Give me a break.

RE[3]: "Gone Gold"
by brewmastre on Tue 7th Nov 2006 13:05 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: "Gone Gold""
brewmastre Member since:
2006-08-01

I didn't say anything about it being less secure, I am referring to how bloated XP becomes once you load all the patches on it. I don't remember the exact numbers but they speak for themselves: XP System dir Prepatch = 950M; XP System dir now w/ all patches installed = 2.4G. You can't seriously tell me that Windows doesn't get more and more bloated and slow with every patch MS throws at it.
I think a good quote that says it all is: "You can think of Windows XP as a house with a second floor built of spackle, wood filler and duct tape." http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/23/AR2...

Edited 2006-11-07 13:09

RE[4]: "Gone Gold"
by DittoBox on Tue 7th Nov 2006 17:44 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: "Gone Gold""
DittoBox Member since:
2005-07-08

And if you knew what you were talking about...

Every time you install a patch is backs up the old files. In the cases of SP1 and then SP2 it essentially makes a backup of the entire Windows directory. Any file that SPn replaces is backed up and compressed in the process.

My one year old, 4.2 gig Windows directory has 2.6 gig of it residing in the "$NtUninstallx," "$NtServicePackUninstall," "ServicePackFiles," and "Installer" directories. Another 200 megabytes is used by the dllcache directory which contains current backups in case of malware trying to replace system files. Various driver files take up another 200-300 meg.

Most of the what's in my Windows directory isn't bloat, it's backups and drivers. A lowly amount of 1.4 gigabytes is all that windows uses on a day to day basis barring drivers. The average fresh Windows SP2 install is about 1.1 gig.

It doesn't get slower, and the software itself doesn't get bloated. It's gets slower because of registry bloat and software creep.

Edited 2006-11-07 17:45

Mac version
by Buck on Mon 6th Nov 2006 19:43 UTC
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2005-06-29

So I understand the Mac version will come some 6 months after the Windows version?

Office:Mac 2007
by someone on Mon 6th Nov 2006 19:47 UTC
someone
Member since:
2006-01-12

It's kind of said that they decide to drop VBA support during the Intel transition. From what I gather from MS blogs, Office:Mac's VBA is already lagging behind the Windows version. I guess it also doesn't make sense to rewrite features that are about to be deprecated.

I hope they will make VSTA available for Office:Mac 2007. At least we will have a proper replacement technology.

Edited 2006-11-06 19:56

five year vision
by happycamper on Mon 6th Nov 2006 19:50 UTC
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2006-01-01

That is what i like Bill Gates everytime he puts out new
software it will for what the computer industry will be in five years.

RE: five year vision
by brewmastre on Mon 6th Nov 2006 21:00 UTC in reply to " five year vision"
brewmastre Member since:
2006-08-01

Are you sure that their software isn't modeled after what the computer industry was five years ago?

RE: five year vision
by Clinton on Tue 7th Nov 2006 08:16 UTC in reply to " five year vision"
Clinton Member since:
2005-07-05

Fortunately, you are right about hardware requirements, but unfortunately, you are also right about DRM. I'm sure the rest of the industry will be forced to follow, but for right now, Microsoft can hogtie your computer today.

RE[4]: "Gone Gold"
by helf on Mon 6th Nov 2006 20:02 UTC
helf
Member since:
2005-07-06

yeah. I run IE on my old os8.1 powermac and it is splendid. if the windows version had been the same featureD

Browser: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 95; PalmSource; Blazer 3.0) 16;160x160

RE[5]: "Gone Gold"
by helf on Mon 6th Nov 2006 20:05 UTC
helf
Member since:
2005-07-06

ok.. no idea why it cut my post off... anyways, I meant if it had the same features on windows. it would have been a lot more popular. the mac version is a good browser.

Browser: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 95; PalmSource; Blazer 3.0) 16;160x160

december 1: on your favorite p2p store :D
by mebarg on Mon 6th Nov 2006 21:40 UTC
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Member since:
2006-09-22

yep i wonder how many days will pass until we find windows vista and office 2007 in p2p networks and properly cracked ;)
that's the only news i am waiting

bye

Office:Mac does have a few unique features
by someone on Tue 7th Nov 2006 04:21 UTC
someone
Member since:
2006-01-12

Here is a list of them (May not be complete):

- Project Centre & Palette
- Scrapbook: Souped-up clipboard
- Compatibility Report
- Notebook Layout view for Word: Supports audio recording and automatically places bookmarks in the recording
- Page Layout view for Excel: Coming to Excel 2007 for Windows
- 3D Transitions and OpenGL rendering: Rotating cubes, anyone?
- Formatting Palette: Context sensitive palette that consolidates various floating toolbars and dialogue options into one place
- Applescript support: only make sense on Macs

Edited 2006-11-07 04:39

tpaws Member since:
2006-06-02

A very handy feature I use in Office:Mac Powerpoint is converting PPT to movie.