Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 28th Feb 2008 19:52 UTC, submitted by Tyr.
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless "The iPhone (or iPod Touch) is a 667MHz computer (albeit one that is only running at 412MHz) with 128MB of RAM and between 4 and 32 GB of flash. For software, it is running a pared down Mac OS X with its standard compliment of a FreeBSD-based userland over a Darwin kernel. While some people wonder why anyone would attempt to use it as a Unix workstation, to me and many others it seems ludicrous not to."
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screenshots
by rb2k on Thu 28th Feb 2008 22:55 UTC
rb2k
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2007-11-06

here are some screenshots concerning the GUI part:
http://www.marc-seeger.de/2008/02/opensource-installerapp-pendan.ht...

RE: screenshots
by yanik on Fri 29th Feb 2008 11:41 UTC in reply to "screenshots"
yanik Member since:
2005-07-13

very interesting. Makes me want to buy an iphone.

APT ?
by sandorfal on Fri 29th Feb 2008 12:28 UTC
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Member since:
2006-02-22

It seems that some person does not know what means APT and should want to understand the article ;)
Please enlight me ?

RE: APT ?
by yanik on Fri 29th Feb 2008 13:29 UTC in reply to "APT ?"
yanik Member since:
2005-07-13

apt is the Advanced Package Manager.

It's a tool to easily install software on debian/ubuntu and others.

RE: APT ?
by sorpigal on Sat 1st Mar 2008 16:06 UTC in reply to "APT ?"
sorpigal Member since:
2005-11-02

APT = Advanced Package Tool.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Packaging_Tool

apt-get is the command-line front end to this tool.

Apt was developed for Debian and is used by Debian and Debian-derived distributions. It has also been used in some other places, such as part of fink, a mechanism for installing typical *nix apps on MacOSX.

While some may dispute my claim, I hold that apt is the best package installer to be found. It is without question in the highest echelon of package manaegers.

RE: APT ?
by Old IT Guy on Mon 3rd Mar 2008 01:38 UTC in reply to "APT ?"
Old IT Guy Member since:
2007-05-01

APT, is a system for managing Software Packages.

Software packages, as distributed under say Ubuntu linux (based on Debian linux) are binary packages (they are already compiled into standard executables) unlike the port management tools such as is available currently for OS X.

Because software packages are pre-compiled against a set of libraries, the APT has to be super snazzy smart and be able to work out all the library dependencies and manage them. It is *very* slick. If you have some libraries but not the others, when you use APT to install a program it will also install the missing libraries and any others that need updating to the newer version that the package was compiled with.

In the reverse process, when you remove a package, the APT system can also check the libraries in your system and if something is not required it will remove and clean up your system as well.

As I have said, very slick.

Work has forced me to use Dell laptops, but this meant I forced it to run Ubuntu Linux. This underlying APT system with the graphical software update program and synaptec package manager makes Ubuntu scary easy to update and add to and really is the best competition to the Mac way OS X gives us.

I have tried other Linux distros and find the whole Ubuntu polish on the underlying package management system to be the best.

I have tried Desktop BSD and PC BSD and they are so far behind Ubuntu in a "Just works" or "Don't crash out on inability to handle dependency libraries" that they look very primitive from the end user standpoint.

I have also tried Fink and Darwin Ports on OS X and they fit a need but also are no where near the polish and level of an Ubuntu APT package management system.

Imagine Darwin Ports where repositories hold pre-compiled binaries of all the ports available for all the OS versions and all the processors and the end user doesn't need to know anything about the back end.

They simply type:

apt-get install someprogram

and someprogram gets installed correctly, works right away, and in only the time to download the file, not download source, and then compile and sometimes crash-out during the compile process with arcane errors the end use has to try and solve. (which most can not or simply won't.)

already done...other way
by antik on Sat 1st Mar 2008 14:15 UTC
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Member since:
2006-05-19

OS X already got native ports system: http://darwinports.com/
What's the difference with APT?

Remember: If it does the same, open source is always better than closed source ;)

Since when BSD is closed source? This is clean Microsoft alike FUD from linux camp again.

Edited 2008-03-01 14:18 UTC

RE: already done...other way
by sbergman27 on Sat 1st Mar 2008 16:04 UTC in reply to "already done...other way"
sbergman27 Member since:
2005-07-24

Since when BSD is closed source? This is clean Microsoft alike FUD from linux camp again.


Antik,

Please. Try to avoid being so sensitive. Not everything which happens to relate to both Linux and BSD is an attack by Linux users upon BSD. And no one is claiming that BSD is not open source. I think that if you'll just stop being so defensive, you'll find that you and *BSD have friends you didn't realize you had. But when you are frequently making accusations of FUD, and attacking everything you encounter which involves Linux, it's hard for people to feel very friendly.

-Steve Bergman