Linked by Maynard Kuona on Sun 18th May 2003 22:48 UTC
Red Hat This may not be of much use to those of you who dread text based installs, and those in the know, but a bit of useful information I came across when I installed Red Hat Linux 9 recently.
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Discovered this 2 days ago
by Richi Plana on Mon 19th May 2003 00:06 UTC

I agree, it IS a nifty thing. About two days ago, one of my Linux boxen refused to boot up after updating the kernel because I had upgraded modutils to use the module tools for the 2.6 dev kernel. I tried booting off of the bootdisk.iso image on CD and did a "linux rescue" only to find I needed the CDs. After searching the Net for a bit, I found out that pointing the installation program to a directory containing the ISO images would be sufficient as a rescue image. So I NFS exported my ISO images subdirectory, and, et voila! I'm dropped into a rescue shell.

Good job, RedHat techs!

Thankyou
by John Blink on Mon 19th May 2003 00:10 UTC

Yeah thanks for that, I don't like reading manuals, and reading something like what you wrote is always helpful.

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by pros on Mon 19th May 2003 00:55 UTC

This is off topic but it doesn't seem like a busy thread.

An article id really like to see is one where you can make custom cd's using some tool supplied by RH, I saw one like it somewhere but forgot.

In other words add all your updated packages, apt-get, config files, MP3. If there is a way to upgrade your distro by putting in a new apt-get URL that would be pretty cool, same cd to install every new release. while still having that crisp feeling of an unclutterd box after 6 months of usage.

I was hoping that this article would show how to install RedHat from source rpms or build it with vanilla gnome, X or something.

You can achieve a very this arimilar effect to what this article suggests if you install from NFS.

RE: To pros and Matthew Baulch
by John Blink on Mon 19th May 2003 01:40 UTC

Those are things I would like to see too in future tutorial style articles.

But lets thank the author for teaching us newbies something that could be useful for us in future.

Imagine that you download the iso's yet you have only one blank CD left.

You do a minimal install with disc 1, and mount the rest of the iso, and install the rest. Therefore it was a good article.

RE: .
by Tyr on Mon 19th May 2003 02:56 UTC

An article id really like to see is one where you can make custom cd's using some tool supplied by RH, I saw one like it somewhere but forgot.

You can include custom rpm's into your install by using the redhat kickstart utility (used to automate part or all of the install process). You can also use it to run scripts before or after your install.
If you want to build a custom cd you can use it. A nice article on how to do this can be found at : http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=6473

Mandrake has been doing this for a long time.
by Brad on Mon 19th May 2003 05:22 UTC

I started installing mandrake on my system with this method when it was on 7.2. It was a successful install minus the x server. I imagine that redhat has had this feature for a long while as well. The only problem with this method is setting it up from a NTFS partition is unlikely. For all of you that dual boot WinXP or Win2K good, good luck using this method.

Offtopic again!
by Chris D.Emery on Mon 19th May 2003 06:27 UTC

Glad to see a RH9 topic come up so soon. I bought and installed RH9 on my Athlon 1000 box yesterday afternoon and with the distro itself I am very impressed - Bluecurve gives the kind of application appearance consistency previously only seen on Mac or windows

it all just worked.

The only problem is that compatibility with some software is broken because they're using GBLIB2.3 and NPTL threads backported to kernel 2.4.20 from the 2.5 dev series ( no I don't know what these are or why nothing now works )

Does anyone know when RPM builds of WINE for RH9 will be available? As a new convert from Windows this is a much needed application. According to Sourceforge you need a version for GLIBC 2.3 but they don't seem to offer one for download...

Correction to above
by Chris D.Emery on Mon 19th May 2003 06:31 UTC

GBLIB should be GLIBC

About NTFS
by Maynard Kuona on Mon 19th May 2003 15:26 UTC

Yes, NTFS throws a spanner into the works, but I don't do NTFS anymore. I am prepared to pay a little performance penalty for that, but FAT32 enables me to use all my hard drives with Linux and Windows without any problems at all. I would like to switch my "Data" partition to something else, but would still like it accessible from DOS for when I have to ghost from a diskette. So FAT32 for now I guess.

I am glad people some people found the article helpful. I also got this information from others so I am just passing it along "The Linux Way".

RE:Offtopic again!
by pros-n-cons on Mon 19th May 2003 16:25 UTC

I had this problem too, and reported it to bugs.winehq.
apparently some ppl have been able to get it to work with the new build when they configure --with-nptl. I haven't.

Wine and RH9
by Aitvo on Mon 19th May 2003 16:37 UTC

There are packages available. Details at the link below.

http://www.winehq.com/index.php?issue=170#NPTL%20Auto%20Det...

WINE/RH9
by Chris D.Emery on Mon 19th May 2003 19:27 UTC

Many thanks for the help on here and by email re WINE on RH9 - I can confirm that the RPMs for 9.0 will install - but unfortunately trying to run a Windows app known to be WINE compatible ( Trillian 0.74 ) froze the system irrecoverably every time I tried to move a Window, and the IE5 installer kept crashing

/user/chris will wait for the official WINE release for this platform before trying this again.

RE: Maynard Kuona
by Anonymous on Tue 20th May 2003 06:56 UTC

You can use Power Quest Drive Image + NTFS drives...

Can you kickstart that over NFS ?
by Mathias on Tue 20th May 2003 11:36 UTC

Is it possible to make a kickstart floppy that look for the ISO images on a NFS Server ?

RE: WINE/RH9
by Florin Andrei on Tue 20th May 2003 19:33 UTC

You mentioned some issues with Trillian. Is that a multi-standard instand messaging app?
If that's true, try Gaim. It comes with RH 9, and it works quite well with ICQ, AIM/AOL, MSN and Yahoo (ICQ and AOL became the same protocol recently, so you must use the same Gaim module for both).

If you wish, you can get a newer, significantly improved version of it from here:

http://freshrpms.net/

Freshrpms also has many neat packages built specifically for Red Hat. If one of those packages requires something else to be installed previously (has a "dependecy"), that dependency is always solved either by another Freshrpms package or by a package in the Red Hat installer CD.
If you go ahead and do it "the Freshrpms way" and install apt, then the dependency issues will disappear (apt takes care of all dependencies for you).